Is global warming hysteria pointless considering the next ice age is imminent?
Sara asked:
I believe in human caused global warming, but it’s a consensus in the non-politically motivated community that interglacial periods last about 10,000-15,000 years. And the last glacial periods ended that long ago.
So could global warming forestall this human catastrophe?
Frankly, I think it doesn’t matter either way because we’re doomed to extinction sometime soon. Most Earth scientists agree on this too.
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I think the warming trend is speeding up the natural Earth cycle that will get us into the next ice age. It was expected to start in 100 years, but the latest consensus is that all the glaciers will be gone in less than 20 years, so I expect that many today will get to experience the first part of it all. That will kill a lot of animals (including humans) and destroy fauna. That will create an effect that will kill even more.
I don’t think the ice age will kill off the human race, but I think many, if not a large percentage will die in the first two waves, and it will be said then, and only then, ‘Why didn’t we prepare for this, everyone could see it was happening back in 1980, and by the end of the 20th Century it was very evident something was happening.’
Instead we now have a lot of pragmatic people who would rather waste their energy trying to say nothing will happen. I somehow suspect they will be the largest amount of the critics who will be mad that it occurred, after it occurred.
The only reason the naysayers talk is that to most of them, it will cost money, and be a waste of money. Many are shrouded by religious lore that says Jesus is coming back, and God ultimately chooses our demise, not us, as we are lessor servants to his missions like the one right now Afghanistan for revenge of 9-11, and now to bring democracy to a group of backwards and mountain yard people who have some extreme thoughts of their own. Oddly the Soviet Union spent more than 20 years trying their brand that yielded nothing. In short, massive energy and resources that could be better used in other ways, like what to do, for something no one knows what will happen.
But it’s a moot point, its all become a political/religious debate.
Would you rather **** up smog so thick that you can hardly breath until it get here?
Models include changes in insolation. Normally it takes about 2-30,000 years to cool by 10C, so in 100 years we’d cool 0.05C. Not really a problem.
Whether natural cycles are cooling or not isn’t really an issue. What matters is what will actually happen to the climate and scientists agree that, taking these cycles into account, dangerous global warming is likely to occur under ‘business as normal’.
That we’ve put off an ice age isn’t going to be much comfort to tens of millions of people who have to abandon their coastal homes and become refugees…
Personally I don’t consider 20,000-50,000 years “imminent”.
Especially when you’re looking at catastrophic climate change within the next century in a business as usual scenario.
the global warming we’re experiencing is all a part of natural fluctuations which are evident over the past 400,000 years. We are now on the upswing and the planet is warming up. Yes, anthropogenic climate change does contribute to the warming, however it’s extremely minute compared to the forces of nature. Any efforts we may attempt to curtail the warming are almost entirely futile. Bringing down our quality of life substantially certainly isn’t worth the “reward”.
I’m not sure whether man is doomed or not as we’ll eventually terraform other worlds. So Earth may be doomed, but not humanity.
I think there’s a huge amount of debate on both Global warming and whether man are doomed anyway – for each scientist on one side of the argument, there’s another on the other side of the argument.
We can be reasonably confident because of the condition of the sun, that some cooling is going to happen, at least for a while.
Saying that another ice age is imminent is just as alarmist as the nonsense they’re trying to feed us..
I do say that we need to make them stick to warming. (They don’t get an easy pass on suddenly changing their language to “climate change”)
I want to force them to say that we should run our cars more to warm the earth. The irony in that would be delicious.